Fuck You @Beccay2
**UPDATE TO THE UPDATE** (Yes, I am just like Greenwald. And it feels dirty.)
A dear friend has told me she’s started receiving abusive emails from @Beccay2. Nice. The best way to prove you’re not an unstable nutcase is by piling on more nuts when you get called out. Seriously, just fucking fuck you @Beccay2.
**UPDATE**
Still believe @Beccay2 is “kind” and just misunderstood? Still don’t think she’s been an explicit participant in smear campaigns?
Here are some tweets @Beccay2 sent when she decided @My1BlueEye had wronged her after he pointed out that she had betrayed his confidence:
“@ssfw70 Im so sorry… Watch out on twitter, 2. Some pretend to be decent then they turn into nasty pervs!” [screenshot]
“@xspook2 aren’t you a guy? Yes, I see you are, James.. YOu don’t have to worry because you ARE a guy… It’s only women he pervs on.” [screenshot]
“This troll keeps badmouthing me it will end badly for him. I’m a patient woman, but I do have my limits. #cantbekindtohimeveragain” [screenshot]
“Thr’s only one person I hate more than my ex son in law. he’s on twitter n he’s a huge phoney baloney. Many r on 2 him..many will learn.” [screenshot]
See how she does it? Just planting the seeds, and pretending she’s spreading the word out of concern for others. Pretending she knows more than she does. @Beccay2 smears people constantly, and this is exactly what she’s been doing (and continues to do) to @Shoq.
Here is an email @ZoeyGirlz received from @Beccay2 after Zoey made the decision to no longer be silent about @Beccay2’s attacks on people:
Charming, no? *smh* What a disgusting human being. With friends like these…you know the rest.
**ORIGINAL POST**
Yes, I’m taking a break from Twitter. No, I’m not quitting foreverandeverandever. I’ll be back when I’m back. Trust me, you’ll survive.
Those of you who pay attention will know that I am often attacked simply for knowing and defending @Shoq. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been called a sockpuppet (or a Shoqpuppet if you’re *really* clever – eleventy internets to you!) Look, this is life. You can’t please all of the people all of the time. Some don’t like @Shoq for his style, others don’t like him because there’s a persistent group of bitchasses online who make it their business to spread the story that he “bullies and harasses #p2 women”. Interestingly enough, whenever you ask for evidence of this accusation, the assholes making it quickly accuse you of being a Shoqpuppet (eleventy internets, you clever fuck!), or they protect their tweets, or suddenly they forget how to type.
For the most part, I ignore these dumb shits. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re going to make up falsehoods like that about someone, you’re shit stuck to gum stuck to the bottom of my shoe. Although for the record, it would be nice if some of you would actually bother to ask the accuser for evidence when you hear them spread this bullshit. You know – like you’d want others to do for you if the lie was being told about YOU. “So-and-so said @Shoq bullies them” is *not* evidence of shit – it’s a fucking smear campaign. Nothing more, nothing less.
Here’s a novel concept: if you don’t like someone, just say you don’t like them. You don’t have to attach an accusation of a serious crime to your position just to make yourself feel better. I know, right? Genius!
I don’t like plenty of people on Twitter. I’m upfront about it. If they ask me why, I’ll tell them. If they don’t, I won’t. I unfollowed @Beccay2 (formerly known as @Rebeccay) about a month ago because I learned she was being one way to @Shoq’s face, and another way behind his back. I don’t want friends like that. It’s creepy, dishonest behavior. I unfollowed quietly, I didn’t make a big deal out of it. But, as I’ve come to know is typical of @Beccay2’s passive aggressive nature, she tweeted me and called my unfollow out as some kind of “TweetDeck error”. I told her I unfollowed intentionally, and I gave her a hint as to why – one that only she would understand. Well, fuck. Apparently you can’t just expect to unfollow @Beccay2 and walk away.
@Beccay2 bleated about how “hurt” she was that I’d unfollowed her, because we were such good friends. WTF? We have exchanged tweets and some DMs, but we’re hardly good friends. I don’t know her like that, and she certainly doesn’t know me like that. What followed was an ugly spat that unfortunately dragged in a couple of other friends. Finally, she deleted her @Rebeccay account and resurfaced using her backup @Beccay2 account.
@Beccay2 has spent the last month or so tweeting endlessly about “nasties” on the left (and how kind and uniting she is…*cough*). She would lament her lost “friends” and trumpet her courage at “speaking out” against the big bad bullies. It feeds into the narrative that she’s such a poor victim, you see. Aren’t you glad you have this warrior on your side?
I’ve watched @Beccay2 work this game on a couple of other people. There’s no need to drag their names into it, but with their permission, I will point to them if they want me to. In addition to manipulative assholes like @Beccay2, I’ve had other psychos on my tail. One popped up in January, and another in April. They each have an unhealthy level of obsession with both myself and @Shoq, and for the most part I’ve ignored them. Occasionally, they’ll get RTd into my stream by assholes who seem to think this type of thing is okay.
It’s no surprise that these psychos have attracted followers like [@PainterlyOne @PaintsLegends @PaintsLegend @NadiaPaints @Nadia_Paints @LaPinteraBruja @Dzoowanakwa @Nadia_Arts @LaPaintesse @LaBohemeBrun @NameTheNadia @NadiaDeParis - seriously...all these name changes happened in one afternoon/evening, it's a 'game' to her now - total cray cray, and she just keeps providing ammo] @PainterlyOne (again) let’s just call her @Cray_Cray (whose stream is littered with obsessive tweets about both @Shoq and his Shoqpuppets – eleventy internets, moron!), but here’s what really pissed me off:
@Beccay2 – you know, Miss Super Kind-Peace-Love-And-Unity – decided she’d give @2Deforcer2 a hearty #FollowFriday endorsement.
Oh, but you guys it’s okay because @Beccay2 didn’t really know what @2Deforcer2 was all about, see?
BULLSHIT.
This is just one more of her lies. You want to know how I know? Because the troll’s timeline was exactly the reason she decided to follow in the first place.
So can we stop pretending like that disingenuous fraud is just a victim in all of this? She’s a fakeass. She’s a liar. She’s a hypocrite. If you don’t like my assessment of her, unfollow me. This isn’t “bullying” – this is calling her out on her behavior. If she’s going to endorse accounts that have been set up purely to harass others, she can go fuck herself and I will not apologize for it.
@Beccay2 has done this kind of crap before. She acts like a prick, then apologizes and tries to rationalize her behavior, then she does it again. I’m not the only one who has seen it. I don’t need her brand of bullshit in my life. If you don’t like me, that’s your choice. I’m not going to bother you about it. But if you promote and fraternize with accounts designed to harass me? You bet your fucking ass I’m going to say something – I don’t give a shit if it makes you feel uncomfortable.
These accounts thrive because of people sitting back and letting it happen. They either don’t care because it’s not happening to them, or they do care but they don’t want to become targets themselves. Whether it’s the former, or the latter: fuck you. These psychos happen because WE LET THEM HAPPEN. Assholes like @Beccay2 let them happen because she doesn’t mind letting others do her dirty work. It allows her to continue along her merry way, acting like she’s Miss Congeniality.
Fuck you, @Beccay2. The game is up.
p.s. Friends, thank you for the kind DMs. I’ll respond whenever. Besides pulling URLs for this post, I’m staying away. I don’t need the fucking angst.
p.p.s. I just can’t imagine why this person would RT this particular tweet from @Beccay2. Oh, wait. Yes I can. Time to move on, much? XOXO! Hugs! #ack
August 7th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
sorry about this whole mess looking 4ward 2 seeing you back in the Twitterverse U may e-mail me any blog posts ANYTIME ! always a friend ~Paul
August 7th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
You have every write to your emotions and choice of action, but did you realize that though you suggest beccay2 and many others of making accusations about shoq without providing any proof, you yourself did that very thing in this post?
” I unfollowed @Beccay2 (formerly known as @Rebbecay) about a month ago
because I learned she was being one way to @Shoq’s face, and another way
behind his back. I don’t want friends like that. It’s creepy, dishonest behavior.”
You made an accusation without providing any proof. My point is that, by its very nature, Twitter virtually demands this sort of interaction. People delete tweets, or something slips out that they may later regret or they may send messages via DM which, of course, are not for public consumption. Those tweets may no longer be available but it doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Providing “twitter” proof is not always the tantamount evidence of unequivocal fact that we’d like it to be. A little self-reflection and perspective on both sides would not go amiss. #justsayin
August 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Oh dear, before I get attacked for my grammar, the computer corrected ‘right’ to ‘write’ in that first sentence, not me…although I rather like the play on words.
August 7th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I saw the proof I needed with my own eyes. Which is why she reacted the way she did when I called her out on it.
Thanks for playing though.
August 7th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
LOL … no kewpie doll? Nada? I never win nothin’.
August 7th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Not true! You win eleventy internets.
August 7th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
I miss you and your meanness and cruelty.Sorry for all the headaches the interwebz have given you.
I mean, I hate you and stuff, but not really.
August 7th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Are they all soft, snuggly and pink? Will they look nice with the throw pillows on my bed? And then in 10 years will anyone even want to buy them at my yard sale, these eleventy internets? Me thinks I might as well just store them in the crawl space along with my fondue pots and patty-stackers. Maybe I’ll see them on Auction Hunters one day, making the boys rich due to their historic uniqueness. Boy, then I will feel special…Not that I’m not appreciative of having finally won something….
August 7th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Since the point of this post is her attack on @Shoq calling him a bully and trying to paint herself as a kind, compassionate uniter, I think you’ve provided proof enough of who she truly is. Sorry you won’t be back for awhile. Was looking forward to getting to know you a little.
August 7th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
I have no problem coming forward & saying I’ve been attacked by @rebeccay [rebeccay2 | beccay2]. For all her hyprocracy, meanness & tendancy to stalk, I believe she is in need of help. However, her followers are enabling her behavior, as they do other cruel & vile behavior. I’m not talking about political or argumentative disagreements; I’m talking about personal attacks. Totally uncalled for. I’ve unfollowed and/or blocked multiple people because of how they’ve attacked Shoq or Vdaze. Since these accounts are blocked, I don’t see future attacks by them unless their bile is retweeted.
After your twitter rest Vdaze, I hope you come back in twitter glory. There are and will be many people watching your back and, I hope, helping to run interference.
August 7th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Lest anyone doubt the veracity of Jessica’s claim, I will bolster it by saying that I received a direct message appreciating my follow “even if we disagree about Shoq, who bullied [her].”
I responded with “it’s too bad you feel that way since you’re wrong.”
Look. Bullying isn’t stating a strong opinion. Bullying isn’t saying “eff you and the horse you rode in on.” Bullying isn’t stating facts in 140 characters. But gossip and passive-aggressive campaigns to divide communities is a subtle form of bullying. Posting lies on a private email list about someone not on the list is also a form of bullying. It suggests that while one chooses not to engage in public, they’re more than willing to take shots at someone who can’t defend themselves simply because they’ve been excluded.
It’s worth remembering that gossip has a way of coming back to the one gossiped about. It’s insidious, divisive, hurtful and wrong. So yeah. I’m not a fan of what’s been going on. I also think campaigns aimed at people instead of issues is a waste of time and energy.
August 7th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Vdaze,
Though our interaction has been minimal, I wish you well and hope that you are able to come back as you want to!! Love your honesty, witticisms and sarcasm. Recharge and get back here when you’re ready!!
August 7th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Miss you, boo. I hope you’ll be bringin’ sexy back to Twitter real soon.
August 7th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Trolls have abounded online since the days of BBS dial-ups. The only difference in tactics in the last 30 years is that now, it’s global. It’s easier. And it spreads much more quickly.
On the one hand, I don’t follow thousands. I check timelines before I follow. So if I see that type of activity, I don’t follow – don’t have the time for it. But that’s how I handle following, and why I don’t see activities like those above – I only see one side of things, if at all. Others follow thousands and iut would take too much time to check every timeline.
But the behavior is there to see. I call these folks grenade-throwers. They pull the pin, toss the grenade, then wait to see who gets hit with the crap. Then they “Oops, my bad.”
Just telling vdaze, shoq, et al, to ignore it won’t work. We need to collectively stop listening. Block, unfollow, etc., when we see folks who choose this kind of behavior.
I hope vdaze is back soon. I appreciate people who call it like they see it.
August 7th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I too have been a victim of @Beccay’s vile treatment. It went on, non-stop, multiple times a day, via Twitter & email. Reason: I followed @Shoq. She claimed that he bullied her. I told her I never saw that and he had not “bullied” me, ever. In continued to follow him, interacted with him, a she let loose her passive. -agressive lunacy.
One minute she was mean & nasty; the next, “PEACE, LOVE, UNITY. BAN THE TWITTER NASTINESS & MEANESS, I’m A CANCER & CHEMO VICTIM & PPL ARE TREATING ME WRONGLY” routine . I call it “Pissy Pissy Kissy Kissy”. Yup. It happened so often, I had to give her MO a name.
At one point, she threatened to keep $1750 of art I had bought from her AND keep my money too [I have documentation]. So, to protect my investment, I was a huge hypocrite. I planned on being nice to her until she shipped the last bit of art [about $400 worth].
It did not work out that way. She went after my friend @my1blueye. Then VDAze
August 7th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Thank you for speaking out, Zoey. I know we had an ugly disagreement, and I hope we can move past it – not at all coincidentally, Beccay2 was at the center of it.
August 7th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
This confederacy of catty-ass women is an embarrassment to themselves and to all women. This morning I was told repeatedly that shoq is a bully. Then when I refused to believe that, the Truthteller moved on to a claim that I have phone sex with shoq. When that didn’t work, some Truthteller-affiliated Blowhard called me subservient to a white man. When that didn’t work the Truthteller said Shoq was currying favor with me. Then the Truthteller pointed to my “admission” that I Skype with Shoq as evidence that I am under his control and that he is a sociopath. Get that? Making new friends in cyberspace and Skyping with them means you’re either a puppet or a sociopath. Of course underlying these charges is the notion that women can’t think for themselves? Apparently they can’t speak for themselves either.
Throughout this barrage of bullshit, I repeatedly asked for evidence of Shoq’s bullying. I asked for a name. The name I was provided? Beccay. The example? A tweet from today saying that Beccay is pathetic.
First, calling someone pathetic is not bullying.
Calling someone pathetic after they have harassed you all fucking day, is not bullying.
Defending oneself against bullying is not bullying.
The Truthteller admitted that he was a sockpuppet with an account created expressly for the purpose of harassing and bullying SHoq on Twitter. I have the screenshot. (Which, said Truthteller informed me was evidence of *my* obsessiveness. ::insert laughter::)
I kept asking for evidence, for a single name of a woman who Shoq has harassed or bullied. I got bupkis. I got claims that the Truthteller was sick of Shoq’s BS and didn’t want to wade in to find the proof (despite technology like Chirpstory) but that I should go talk to so-and-so about being bullied. So-and-so happens to be a guy. So now Shoq is bullying men AND women?
Then I got a DM from another person who has some history with Shoq saying “Shoq has a poisonous relationship with women. I heard that from so-and-so.” I mean, what the fuck, people? This is RIDICULOUS.
Look, to the person behind all of this — you know who you are — you should know that I have been getting DMs about you and your involvement. And that folks are getting wary. I suggest you knock this shit off now while you still have your tiny little blog following and while you still think you’re the Queen of Fuck Mountain. Are you trying to become Jane 2.0? That’s where you’re headed.
And yes, you and all your cohorts are pathetic. #P2 is for politics. Not for Plastics.
Karma is a bitch, and she has puppies.
/not proofread
August 7th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Screw the bullies. Hope to see you back soon.
August 7th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
I am so sorry to see that you are taking a Twitter Break because of someone like @Beccay2. Although she never attacked me, I un-followed her a long time I go (when she was @Rebeccay) because of how confrontational she was with so many people. I hope you don’t stay away too long, I so enjoy reading and re-tweeting your Tweets.
August 7th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Thanks for the comment – and I fixed your name :-)
August 7th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I’m an outsider, who didn’t follow you, but I follow others, and read this kind of on the outside. Dude. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. Take some time. Get the hell away from these stupid catty bitches who want nothing more than to attack people that get a message out there simply because they can.
The wonderful thing about the internet is that it allows us to give voice to ideas and opinions that we can’t voice offline in groups of people.
That’s also the really shitty thing. Because some people will use it to give voice to ideas and opinions that would get us punched in the face if we voiced them offline in groups of people. *hug* Hang in there.
August 7th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
So true – thank you *hugs*
August 7th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
I think you are wonderful, and I was missing you on Twitter even before I started seeing the postings about the dust-up. You, Shoq, Karoli, and AngryBlackLady are clear leaders among progressives, and I read everything you write. For some reason there are those people everywhere who seek to defame, divide, destroy, and manipulate the leaders. Knowing that doesn’t make it any easier to deal with, I know. I’ll share my stories with you someday. Breathe deeply. Do beautiful things. Heal. And come back stronger than ever. You are much admired. Don’t be gone long. I too am sending hugs.
August 7th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Continued
Then she went after my good friend, @My1Blueye. Later, I learned she had driven @VDaze right off of Twiter. I never dreamed that could evah happen. @VDaze is a strong woman.
Then, she resumed her yearlong. jihad against @Shoq.
I couldn’t take it any more. Though she still had some art I paid for that had not been shipped, I felt an overwhelming urge to speak out. To EXPOSE her for the crazy woman she is.
I did that, supported by @Shoq, @My1Blueye and many others. It’s pretty clear those who have been subjected to her pissy pissy kissy kissy attack[s] are very familiar with how her little games play out.
I do NOT regret speaking out. It was the right thing to do. I should have done it earlier.
If you are reading this Becky, I think you have got some issues that should be treated.You can’t claim it’s the cancer talking. It was removed from your foot months & months ago And you can’t blame it on the chemo. You’ve been off it for a whie. You really need to own up to what you’ve done and offer a sincere apology, by name, to all of the people you have gone after in a mean, nasty, or malicious manner.
Then, if.you can’t act like a reasonable adult, GET OFF OF TWITTER.
BTW, I expect the art I paid for to be sent to me intact and undamaged.
The rest of you: my apology for any typos in this or the prior comment. I sent the first comment by accident, before I could proof it. This one? Having keying issues on my cell.
Becky, don’t bother trying to smear me on Twitter. My REAL friends will know the truth.
August 7th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Ah, yes. Beccay2. Or whatever cover she’s using to harass people these days.
She apologizes for her bad behavior so often, it’s a constant source of wonder to me that she doesn’t see herself as the source of the problem. Instead, she parrots tales of social woe and victimhood with Teddy Ruxpin-like reliability.
Of course, she’s not the lone firestarter. These folks tend to engage aggressively, first on the basis that they disagree with you. They’re easy to spot because the conversation quickly devolves to what a bully Shoq is and how anybody who talks to him is a Shoqbot and can’t possibly have any independent thought.
Dealing with these people is rather like tangling with a creationist: you demand facts and evidence of their accusations against Shoq, they want to talk faith and feelings. (If only you’d just believe!) To date, I’ve seen precisely zero evidence of Shoq’s culpability for anything other than occasionally being a little bullheaded or dickish. BAD CAT! BAD!
In the end, my darling Oz, I’m glad you’re calling out unreasonable behavior and taking a little time for yourself. You’re always on the right side and I’m proud to call you my friend. <3
August 7th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
You win all the internets. Forevah. <7
August 7th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Oh, jessica … The stories I could tell. You see, I’ve just been through a knock-down, drag-out, no holds barred twitter fight with Becky. Why? Because I unfollowed her. I even told her WHY I was unfollowing her (she asked me a question in DM, about another person. I answered. Said something I probably shouldn’t have, and then, predictably, she went and told that person what I said). So she started a jihad against me. To be clear, I said “I can’t trust you. You betrayed my trust, so I can’t be friends with you anymore.” At which point it was ON.
As backstory. I helped run a fundraising raffle for her. We raised over $3,000 for her. I even paid the 3% PayPal fee to transfer the money to her. I completely redesigned her website for her. Looks gorgeous. I offered her, and ended up providing her, free web hosting for her site from April until … well, still!
But somehow I “betrayed her” many times. She says. So she starts with the accusations that I stalk people. That I “perv on women” and that I prey on women that have cancer. Yes, I prey on them by doing nice things for them. Heaven forbid! That I bully and harass women. (starting to sound familiar? A little bit)
But it all follows the same pattern. Be *really* fucking nasty and gratuitously ugly in private. Play the victim in public. Post how she’s “done with it” then post a series of inspirational quotes about peace and love and unity. Go on a sugar-spree of being EXTRA nice to anyone I interact with (at least in public). Lather rinse repeat. Same thing every time.
And through it all, because I’m a grown-up and a professional, I have continued to provide her with FREE web hosting for her site. She has alternately accused me of “taking her site down” and “probably embedding a virus” in her files and “threatening to take her site down.” Of course I’ve done no such thing. Any of it. What I HAVE done, now, is server her with notice that as of 5:00 pm EDT on August 15, 2011 I will cease providing web hosting services to her. She has until then to move it. Hell, I even offered to HELP her move it at first. But thas all just part of my nefarious plan, apparently. My way of taking advantage of her. *eye-fucking-roll*
The best part is that she has now publicly forgiven me. You read that right. She publicly forgave me. For what she did. No shit. Let that sink in. Then go pull the inevitable fork out of your eye because that kind of crazy will surely make you jam a fork in your eye.
So come back to twitter. Come back in force. Just like you always are.
August 7th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Zoey-
I recall that incident because I think I drunkenly inserted myself into it. Apologies if I was rude to you, and good on you for speaking out. This really is beyond unfair.
What’s most unfair and disgusting about it is this underlying notion that men are somehow immune from bullying simply by being men. And underlying *that* notion is that if men speak out against they, are somehow less manly.
It is one of the most disgusting online displays I’ve seen in a while.
As for the art, you should take her to small claims court. Claims are very easy to file and that should prompt some action on her part.
August 7th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Jesus kerrrrrist. My1BlueEye, you have the patience of a saint. You really do.
I’ll be back when I’m back. I’m in no hurry. Maybe I’ll quit foreverandeverandever and then come back as vdaze2. *eye roll*
August 7th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
“Teddy Ruxpin-like reliability”! Hahahahaha!
Get away from the crap for a while, clear your head, but then come back for the good stuff. Barx is friggin’ hilarious. ABL is angry and black and ladylike. Shoq is one-of-a-kind – and hence impossible to puppet.
We’ll miss you.
August 7th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
I have minimal to add here (no good stories), as most everything has been said. But I do know that I stand by you in solidarity, Jess.
I also stand by the notion that not every “kindly old lady” can be assumed to be as such. I’m of the mind that this confederacy uses that predilection to pray on people’s base compassion. And that’s just really quite sad. In the end, it’s not much better than the RWNJs against which we rail.
Thank you for spelling it out so cogently, and I hope that your vacation is one that is short-lived. You are indeed appreciated for the vigor and passion which you bring to our community, and it’s upsetting that not every one can see that.
August 7th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Thanks so much, Andy. Your kindness is appreciated.
August 7th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
I lost several hours the other night reading every one of shoq’s tweets, looking for the supposed pummeling he gave someone. This is all getting old. Sorry it made you take a break. I swore I wouldn’t lose any more time on this. Actually, in this spirit, I didn’t even read your whole post. Hope you come back soon.
August 8th, 2011 at 2:18 am
I need you to come back because it’s no fun being a bitch by myself ;-))
August 8th, 2011 at 8:11 am
I swear to fuckall, that woman is trying to corner the market on crazy. She sends me an email, apologizing and trying to make nice, while warning me to be careful of Zoey. At the same time, she sends an email to Zoey apologizing and trying to make nice while warning Zoey about me.
I’m going to add dumber than a box of rocks to the list of things that’s wrong with that woman. It takes special crazy and special stupid to try to pull that kind of shit and think you won’t get caught in about 10 seconds or less. *head-desk*
August 8th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Whaaaaa? I bet you’re looking forward to your vacation – NO CELL COVERAGE! *lol*
August 8th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
No joke, this is entirely reminiscent of my MIL, who is … a cancer survivor.
Now, I’m not going to make any sort of broad assumptions about people who undergo chemotherapy, but I’ve noticed that in the case of my MIL, it has intensified her personality. She’s always been a little narcissistic, but *after* her treatment, she got about 10x [if not more] worse.
It may very well have been being faced with her own mortality combined with whatever scrambling the treatments did to her brain chemistry, but she is a force of crazy like none I’ve experienced.
Yes, I love my MIL for her intents, but her capacity for adaptation is severely diminished. Also, the narcissism [and subsequent inability to take responsibility for anything mean-spirited she may say/do] is *still* increasing.
Again, I’m not making a blanket assumption about cancer survivors. Just inferring that maybe the darker sides of one’s personality are harder to keep in-check. Also not an excuse. Just maybe a reason for it.
Side note: @beccay2 is now protected. Thought you should know, Jess.
August 8th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
You are missed. That is all.
August 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Good news out of all of this? I’m now following dvnix, My1BlueEye & ZoeyGirlz. And AngryBlackLady is now following me! Woot! Still missing you, Jessica.
August 8th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I’m so glad – they are great people. And thank you.
August 8th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Thank you.
August 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Thanks for the info about your MIL – it’s something to consider. I didn’t know Beccay2 before, so I can’t comment if she’s better or worse now. All I know is she’s not the type of person I want anywhere near me. She’s treated some of her friends horrifically, and she continues to do so as far as I can tell.
It doesn’t surprise me that she’s protected her tweets. She refuses to take responsibility for her behavior. I’m sure she’s bleating endlessly about how she survived cancer, and for some reason that’s supposed to make everyone ignore her disgusting personality. I’m sorry she got sick, but it’s no excuse for her personality.
August 8th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Wow just tweeting along in lala land. Did look into timelines and saw the pattern of naughty and nice. Hope I haven’t cause I’m on the outskirts but sorry if I have ever RTed any of the crazy. Hope you come back soon as I do enjoy your tweets. And Shoq I have been somewhat afraid of you so guess the crazy got in my head without me realizing it. Hope the truth prevails for it’s there for all to see
August 8th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Wow, so, this is a real thing? You’re taking a Twitter sabbatical? Not for nothing, but, I’m starting to feel some pangs of abandonment. If you don’t come back, soon, I’ll just have to start setting things on fire. Not good stuff, just cheap, Dollar store stuff, but still, IT WILL BE ON FIRE!
Seriously, do what you need to do to take care of yourself. People on Twitter can be insufferable, mean, assholes. Somehow, they think just because they say it on Twitter, it doesn’t really count. It does!
PS – When you do decide to come back, I’ll have some virtual Nutella s’mores waiting for you.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Hey there..
I knew her on twitter before she developed melanoma. Wasn’t all that crazy about her,so I un-followed her. She complained about it and unleashed the passive aggressive Krakin( did I spell that right?) I finally started an argument with her and she became annoyed and un-followed me! My evil plan was successful! I’ve seen this passive aggressive behavior from her a lot. She does tend to be a bit of a professional victim…seeks it out in her twitter relationships. I feel bad for her. She can’t be happy.
She’s locked her account now , though. Come back , you are a smart young woman and I enjoy your tweets so much, as well as enjoying all the other folks she has lashed out at!!
I could go on about her issues from a professional viewpoint but I am loathe to do that with folks I don’t really even know.But clearly, there is something up with her ( but then, hey, most folks have something “up”).
But you are just fine and fun and you entertain me and I so enjoy hearing from smart young progressive folks..you guys all rock, and help keep me young!
August 9th, 2011 at 4:45 am
I miss seeing that inexplicably seductive avi on my TL…and the insight mixed with wry humor I’ve grown to love…ayeeeeeeee I had NO idea I was being followed by THREE twit celebrities on the progressive side @VDaze @AngryBlackLady and @Karoli looool guess that means I’m winning but I don’t think I want eleventy internets though…(your blog is fiyah too lowkey) ;)
August 9th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Unfortunate to see you leave on these circumstances.Looking in from the outside and caught the last of it wit ABL.Was looking forward to reading more of your posts as they were insightful and humorous.Bullying to me would consist of constant belitting,denigration, and outright smear. I saw none in the TL’s Beccay comes off as a emotional vampire as long as she stirs confusion and turmoil she’s happy.Sometimes we all need a break to recuperate and restore.Do you and hope to see you back sooner rather than later.
August 9th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Wow. What an incredible waste of time and energy. Internet flame wars? At your age?
Grow up, lady. Get a life.
August 9th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Wow. Commenting on a post that you consider to be an “incredible waste of time and energy”. At your age?
Yeah. *I* need to grow up.
August 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Yup. Came back. Read the comments. Got the t-shir to prove it.
Updating the updates to the update? 3 legs humps await. Just write it down and don’t let me forget. I will do it. #makenomistake
August 9th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Ken, stop being a poopface.
August 9th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
LOL
August 9th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
I’m setting a reminder. With a weekly recurrence.
August 9th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Ken,
Surely, your comments regarding juvenile behavior & internet flame throwing must be referring to @Beccay2.
Many people are tired of her well documented behavior. They are trying to encourage her to stop her attacks on well-meaning people. If she can’t behave on Twitter, then she should be held accountable.
Zoey
August 10th, 2011 at 1:55 am
Wow.
I tune in and out of the “Shoq is a bully/Republican/Martian/whatever” and “VDaze is a Shoq sockpuppet” flame wars, and don’t quite understand what sustains them month after month.
I do get DM’d by people telling me the same old same old about Shoq if his name is in one of my tweets…but I shove my DM column out of sight in my tweetdeck at this point. Or simply unfollow.
I am quite able to observe and draw my own conclusions and I do.
I don’t follow beccay coz her timeline seemed to be content free when I checked it…just flames of pointless war.
Seems to be a personality type on twitter.
I don’t understand.
Oh well. Be back soon, you.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@beccay2 has had a habit of deleting her more nasty/mean/attack posts from her timeline. So it looks like she herself is being attacked & not the other way around. It’s also harder to get documentation of her bad behavior if she destroys it.
It appears that she may have made allegations that her life was threatened & she is afraid. Until I see documentation, I will believe that this is just another one of her games to play the victim & absolve herself of any actions she has taken or things she has said.
August 10th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
I’m with you, Zoey. Show the evidence or it didn’t happen.
I have no doubt she’s milking this all she can (and making up stories) to try and deflect from her own behavior and garner sympathy from anyone she can. She’s already proven herself to be a manipulator and completely untrustworthy.
August 10th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
I chirpstoried some of the madness. This Veritas person can’t even keep his story straight. “Shoq didn’t do anything to me.” “I have personal experience.” “We have examples.”
http://chirpstory.com/li/2194
blahblahblah
zzzzzzz
August 10th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
“We” have examples? This is some Primal Fear shit.
I don’t believe “he” is a “he” at all. It’s a woman. You can tell.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:54 am
I know it’s been difficult, but I’ve actually appreciated this debacle. It’s been great for finding new follows and culling the herd. It will be wonderful to see you back, though!
August 11th, 2011 at 11:52 am
You two, vdaze and shoq, are the best of tweeters and too smart to put up with this soap opera bull shit. I really do appreciate what you two have to say and miss seeing and reading your tweets in my timeline on a ‘regular’ basis. Your online friends/followers understand where the bull shit starts, and where it ends. Can you imagine Joan Rivers or Don Rickles having to explain their quips and comments? Either people get it or they don’t. You can’t educate the world from ignorance. Ignorance is a choice, aware of that or not, and some people don’t understand that. Hurry and get this behind you. I miss you guys.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:15 am
From all I’ve heard and seen, she’s mentally ill. I also have my doubts as to whether or not she actually had cancer and to what degree. She seems to be an attention seeker as well as someone who has gotten used to charming people into doing her bidding.
$3000 was raised for her? Did anyone verify her story first?
On another note, I like you but don’t personally like Shoq (or, more fairly, his tweets) and quietly unfollowed him over a year ago. My right and no big deal. He has plenty of fans. But what you did with that @GottaLaff tweet? I think it’s totally unfair.
I don’t think that being friends with someone means that you have to help crucify those they dislike. I don’t know what happened between those two, and don’t really care, but I re-tweet tons of quotes and other things people say without going back in their timelines to find the root. Assuming ill intentions simply because someone is disliked by your friend just isn’t fair.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I’m not qualified to say whether Beccay2 is mentally ill or not, I’ll leave that to the professionals. I’m also not going to doubt her cancer. She certainly uses it any chance she can get to garner sympathy, which I find incredibly manipulative and tacky.
What I did with the GottaLaff tweet was not unfair in the slightest. I have screenshots proving she knew exactly what that quote was related to – it was the very reason I unfollowed Beccay2 in the first place. GottaLaff chose to RT that particular quote out of a series of quotes Beccay2 tweeted for a reason. She continues feeding this bullshit and spreading lies (and letting others do it on her behalf). But people are wising up to it, and they’re getting sick of it. You’d be surprised how many have contacted me and told me similar stories / forwarded screenshot evidence of her bullshit. Enough. It needs to stop.
You are free to like and RT whomever you like, and I am free to do the same. But I will not stand by and watch someone smear others intentionally with false accusations – she needs to put up with evidence or STFU. She hasn’t done that yet, but the smear campaign continues. How is that fair? What if it were happening to you? Think about it. I’m not going to judge you for liking her, my mind changed about her based on the evidence I have seen. You haven’t seen it. But if GottaLaff wants to keep this shit up, perhaps you will. She controls her behavior, I don’t.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
vdaze has presented scores of evidence that beccay2 is a smear merchant. others on this comment thread have chimed in with their own tales. nadia attacks people for no reason, and then acts like a lunatic, changing her name fifteen times in one evening.
gottalaff remains friends with these folks while seemingly making no effort to suggest that perhaps their behavior is inappropriate. it is not unreasonable to draw the conclusion that she either implicitly or explicitly supports the behavior of these lunatics, or, at a minimum, lacks the lady-balls to tell her friends that they are being assholes.
in either event, that reflects poorly on her.
i have also been contacted about these shenanigans.
then again, vdaze and shoq and i are part of the Shoq Ultimatum, so we’re probably lying, right?
gottaLaff has thousands of followers. she knows that members of her close circle are baselessly, viciously, and maniacally attacking people, and yet she does nothing? says nothing? doesn’t approach vdaze and say “Hey, I’m sorry this is happening” or “I don’t agree with what’s going on?” seems to me it’s incumbent upon her to act. a decent person would act. that she has not also speaks volumes.
but hey, i’m just a girl — like so many unnamed others — who has phone sex with shoq, so i’m clearly not to be trusted.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Exactly. Anyone need more evidence? GottaLaff FOLLOWS one of the trolls. But she’s sooooooooooo nice!!!
Whatever. She is fully fucking aware of her role in this.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Oh, look…here’s a perfect example of GottaLaff’s role in all this. This tweet from Manyko2 was in response to dvnix’s tweet giving a Follow Friday recommendation for Shoq.
What, exactly, did Shoq “do” to GottaLaff?
Bueller?… Bueller?… Bueller?
This is all part of a larger story that GottaLaff has (for the most part) kept hidden from the public. She started this whisper campaign after a falling-out with Shoq. And I intend to finish it.
That’s a fucking promise.
August 14th, 2011 at 1:27 am
One of the biggest disappointments for this ‘sheep groupie’ was discovering that’s how I had been referred to. After she had met me IRL and even asked me about Shoq.
I’ve been savaged on an email list as a sycophant and fool for being friends with him…and other people on that list are good friends with the guy whose blog I write for.
Yes. Those are real disappointments for me. Whisper campaigns full of innuendo with no fact is something I have no patience for and I deeply resent being judged by the same people mounting the campaign because I don’t buy that bullshit for a minute.
I’m also sick of it. I think the whole story should just be told and then we should move on. Too much work to be done.
August 14th, 2011 at 3:01 am
Sadly, gottalaff is a beccay enabler. I enjoyed most of her tweets but her support of these trolls was sending me into a diabetic coma so I had to recently stop following her. I’ve also done a “karoli” in that I’ve also blocked a lot of troll supporters. I had followed laffy for some time. Too bad she can’t see beccay, et al for sickos they are.
August 14th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Karoli
The idea that even after having met you, reading your work, and knowing you through your tweets, you are still being painted as some kind of mindless groupie is just absurd. It’s a little too Glenn Beckistan for me – they know the truth, but the rest of us are being tricked and fooled by Shoq, the Ultimate Mindbender. Just ridiculous.
Queen Bee had a falling out with him and decided she doesn’t like him. In order to keep up the facade that she’s just as sweet as sugar, she made up all this harassment crap so others would be on “her side.” It is just beyond comprehension to me that so many have bought her weak story, and worse, actually taken it upon themselves to further the whisper campaign. But Queen Bee seems well-versed in manipulating and using people to her own advantage. Anything to come out on top. We all know this story.
I’m with you. This story needs to come out, so it can be ended. And it will come out.
August 14th, 2011 at 11:20 am
GottaLaff sees the trolls for exactly what they are – additional worker bees to do her dirty work. There’s a reason she’s not correcting the story being told by these people – it’s the story she planted and has been whispering to people ever since she and Shoq parted ways.
August 14th, 2011 at 11:32 am
This is ridiculous. It’s the sort of behavior we’d expect from the Firebaggers, who have an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AGENDA than us. But no. This is just a clique … without our movement. Simply maddening.
That MK2 exchange ended with what seemed like a bad, 1980s bar pickup: “hey, we have a similar amount of tweets, let’s follow each other.” I normally don’t follow-back on demand, which I mentioned ["follow me, interact a bit, and we'll see"], but there MK2 was adamant in the mutual follow bit. So, I declined.
In hindsight, I can only imagine that played into finding out why I’d unfollowed Laffy, because the exchange happened after that. I’ve gotten pinged randomly by one or two Laffy supporters since then. Supporters whom I haven’t heard from in MONTHS. Smells of fish, it does…
August 14th, 2011 at 11:42 am
I just think it’s the height of rudeness to not only ask yourself why someone unfollowed, but also have others ask on your behalf. Being followed on Twitter isn’t a right, and people shouldn’t be made to feel as though there’s pressure to re-follow.
You’re either with Queen Bee, or you’re with the terrorists, I guess.
*eye roll*
August 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Sorry, in my pre-coffee state, I’ve neglected to mention that I got an email from Laffy inquiring into the nature of my unfollow, whether or not it was intentional. Receiving this was about 75% expected, with unsure 25% being because I’m small potatoes here.
Still crafting a proper response.
August 14th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Seriously…WTF? For what it’s worth, you don’t owe her an explanation – but I understand you’re a nicer guy than that :-P
That shit is just creepy.
August 14th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I am cursed with being diplomatic in nature, along with the need to indulge my own empathy. I’ve never been nothing but polite to her, so I can be a big enough person to find a polite response. Would love your input, if I could email it to you.
August 14th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I don’t understand what the BFD is about sheer number of followers. Ashton Kutcher has like eleventy million followers and no one gives a rat’s ass what he has to say.
It’s the quality of followers that count. I could tweet something about Justin Bieber and get 100 followers in twenty seconds. Does that give me a downlow tingle?
Uh, no.
I tend to use lists anyway. What’s the point of following 10,000 people? You can’t possibly have any meaningful interaction with all of those people. If people want to follow me, then great. If not, BFD.
Whatevs. These people are like bored emo high schoolers.
August 14th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I’m a “quality over quantity” sorta guy, so after I got over the initial “ZOMG!!11 I CAN HAZ FOLLOWERS” feeling, I stopped paying attention to follower counts.
Honestly, the conversation, camaraderie and potential for real-life change that keeps me coming back, not the promise of notoriety. This isn’t Pokémon, you know?
August 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I’m still easing back in after my sabbatical/vacation, but part of that easing back in is unfollowing folks. Defenders of the cabal, enablers of them, etc. I’m done with it. Even while I was gone, the attacks continued — and even intensified — with predictable regularity and lines of attack. Not only do these ‘people’ have very little in the way of actual intelligence, they have zero imagination and cleverness.
And just because you have (or have had) cancer does not make you sympathetic, or even a decent person. It makes you someone who survived a (potentially) deadly disease. and playing the cancer — or really any disease/injury/whatever card is just sad and pathetic. If you’ve got nothing else going for you than what’s WRONG with you, then guess what? You’ve got nothing going for you.
The last time this whole gang-pile happened to me I simply folded up shop and went away. Not. This. Time. If it keeps up, I’m just going to start telling MY side of the story. With supporting facts and documentation, etc. The whole whisper campaign and continuous spreading of lies can suck it. One of the drawbacks of a campaign of lies is running up against the truth, and facts, and documentation.
Shine a light in the corners and watch the cockroaches scatter.
August 29th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
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December 7th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Holy shit you people are in desperate need of getting a real life. And that’s coming from ME.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
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